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What Is The Past, Present, And Future Of Divi

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Learn about the history and popularity of Divi, the current situation, and a ton of sneak peaks into the incredibly exciting future of Div!

UPDATE: We published this February 15, 2022. But Nick Roach just gave an update on November 11, 2022 about Divi 5.0 and the future plans. So basically he is sharing the same thing as me, just better πŸ™‚

DISCLAIMER: I do not work for Elegant Themes. Please consider the information in this article as reliable, but not official. My sources include information gathered from public statements from owner Nick Roach, design director Kenny Sing, and senior development manager Josh Ronk. The majority of this post includes public information gathered and written into my own words. A small percentage of the future features section is based on a combination of this existing public information combined with my own knowledge of the company, experience with the product, and a few educated assumptions. There is a lot more that I know which is not written due to the fact that that information has been shared privately and has not been shared publicly by Elegant Themes, so it would be unprofessional to share more without their consent. Again, everything here is reliable, but not official, and obviously anything could change.

The Future Of Divi Is Extremely Exciting!

I honestly can’t tell you how excited I am for the future of Divi. Some of you will want to believe me, but have doubts and will question my excitement. Some may even laugh at me. But I believe the majority of you will cling to what I have to share and embrace it, and take part in my excitement. You really need to read ALL of this post. If you would rather listen, then click the YouTube video and listen to me cover the information in this post.

My desire is for the Divi community to be properly educated on the past, present, and future of Divi so you can maintain a correct perspective. I encourage all of you to stay well-informed and resist believing false information and negativity, especially as we face uncertainty with the rise of Gutenberg and other competitors. Far too many people are swayed by lack of knowledge, rumors, or nearsightedness. The future of Divi is very bright. I am not being naΓ―ve. Things are about to get epic!

▢️ Please watch the video above to get all the exciting details! πŸ‘†

Past – Divi, The Game Changer

This section is a brief look back at how Divi started and became the most popular WordPress theme in the word.

The Origin Story Explains A Lot

Depending on when you came to Divi, you may not know how it started. Perhaps the name of the company gives a clue – Elegant Themes. Notice the plural “s” on the end. What is that all about?

Elegant Themes started as a theme company. This was before page builders existed. They created 88 themes before Divi! That’s a lot! Then one day they decided to make a theme that could give users a lot of customization options. That is when Divi was born.

Another Theme – With Fixed Modules

Divi was started as a theme – not a builder and not a framework. They envisioned a theme with modules for different things like a blog, portfolio, etc. But they did not envision having 100 different layouts and thousands of settings inside each of those modules.

It’s actually quite amazing that Divi was able to continue to build on this foundation until what we know today. It’s almost impossible. So be thankful for what it has become and what it can do!

Divi Became The #1 WordPress Theme In The World

I can’t say for sure if this title is still true, but it certainly was true at some point that Divi theme was the most popular WordPress theme in the world. Keep in mind we are saying “theme” and not “page builder” which would be a little different. Something like the Elementor plugin would have more installs than the Divi Theme. You can check these stats on websites such as BuiltWith.com. This popularity was made possible by their visionary ideas to completely change the definition of editors or page builders as we know it.Β 

Incredible Feature Updates

If you have been using Divi for several years, you know the evolution of the product has been astonishing. Just take a few moments and think back. Just in the past years, we got some amazing new features. I’m not even going to try to list them all, just go to their blog and take a scroll: Divi Feature Updates

Present – The Current State of Divi

This section is a look at the current state of Divi at the time of publication.

NOTE: This post was published February 15, 2022. So obviously this will become outdated at some point. Be gracious to me! πŸ™‚

Continued Success

Divi has remained a very popular theme throughout the changes in technology and the rise of competitors. I believe this continued success is due to three main factors:

  1. The commitment from Elegant Themes to constantly improve, innovate, and invest in the future
  2. A huge 3rd party ecosystem encouraged by Elegant Themes which extends the framework in every way possible
  3. The unusually large and helpful Divi user community

Why is Divi development so slow?

It may seem like Elegant Themes takes too long to release new, exciting updates. This was not always the case, and will certainly not be the case in the future. But for now, it’s true, and there are fair reasons that explain why. The current state of Divi feels like a calm before the storm. And I say that in a good way, a good storm. For now, Divi remains popular, versatile, and capable.

Why Are Modules Missing So many Features?

Most of the modules today lack basic settings that you would expect. Why? For example, why is the Menu module or Blog module missing so many expected layouts and customization settings? It is frustrating, and users deserve to know the answer. The answer is in the origin story plus the fact that the team is smart, and they know adding more and more requested features right now will destroy Divi – it will simply get too big. This is exactly why Divi is being reinvented, so be sure to keep reading!

Legacy “Technical Debt” Is Holding Divi Back

Because Divi has been around since 2013, there are many years of something called “technical debt.” The best way to understand this concept is to think of how technology has changed in the last decade. Let’s say a website was built in 2013 with the Divi Theme. The site may be perfectly functional, but every time Divi wants to move forward and improve on the Theme, it has to constantly consider millions of sites on older versions. Ever wonder why updates take long to release? Actually, the Divi development team is fast! But the QA testing takes forever, and that is so that any new update doesn’t break the internet.

The Big Boat Analogy

Kenny Sing kept referring to Divi as a boat, and I love this analogy. Let me explain.

Imagine Divi as a boat in a race. There are other boats too, and everyone wants to take the most people along to the other side. So it needs to be fast, and safe, and they want to get there first.

Divi was one of the first boats to sea. People were hopping aboard, and it was great sailing.

But as more and more people got on board, the boat got slower and more features, they started sinking. Other boasts started passing them. Now what?

The only solution is to get a bigger boat. But wait, you can’t just get a new boat out in the sea. But what if you could somehow make your current boat bigger and better?

So to put yourself in the perspective of the Elegant Themes team, imagine you are on this boat. What would you do? How would you do it?Β 

Divi Is Stuck

The team at Elegant Themes knew they were stuck. They could not move forward without adding more and more weight to the builder. And they couldn’t move back because they have so many customers.

Because of this, Divi has been 2 years behind on everything. It’s like when you go buy a new car and wonder why it doesn’t have the latest new tech innovation- it’s because the care was designed 2+ years ago. Nick and his team knew the cycle of being stuck needed to change.

More, More, More! The Cry For Features

The answer is not adding more features — because the system is at capacity. We all want all the features, but honestly, that would be like driving off a cliff — it’s going to die. So the question became more like, what would they do if they build from scratch? And how to do that without throwing out the old?

The Competition Is Making Divi Look Bad

If you hang around the WordPress space at all you will hear of seemingly endless line of new page builders coming out that are lightweight, fast, and full of every imaginable feature. This naturally brings up the question of why Divi is not keeping up with the competition. Why is Divi taking so long to release update?

Bad Timing

There are several things worth knowing about this. The competition came after web technologies changed. So while Divi had a head start, suddenly the competition was passing them because they started years later after technology changed.

Market Leader Challenges

And to make matters worse, the competitors were able to watch Divi and avoid making the same mistakes, while Divi was left stuck with the dept that was created. No one was at fault, it was just a matter of timing and one of the challenges of being a market leader.

Technical Debt

The explanation is actually due to the technical debt. This also explains how competitors can rise up and seemingly surpass Divi features overnight. They have an incredible impossible to overstate advantage here. They can look at all the features that make a theme or page builder great and simply build it, all at once. Boom! They release it and it looks amazing. That’s because there is no history of sites using their tool, and instead of needing a huge support team for existing sites and customers they can focus on new development.

Future – The Extremely Exciting New Divi Experience

This section is a summary of plans and expectations for the future of Divi.

Divi Is Not Going Away

Let’s start off the future section here by stating very clearly that Divi is NOT going away. It is here to stay, and the team at Elegant Themes has things under control.Β  They are self-aware, and realize there are issues to overcome, but the best part is that they are both willing and capable of overcoming them. For this fact we should say a huge thank you, as this could not be said about every company.Β 

More Than A Version Jump

We are generally familiar with how software evolves. First we have version 1.0, then some smaller updates like 1.1, 1.2, etc. Then after a while we get 2.0, a much bigger update. Then again we get a cycle of smaller updates 2.1, 2.2, etc. In Divi, we got to 4.0 which was a big update with the Theme Builder. So after many 4.x updates, the next logical update is just another big 5.0 update, right?

Well, yes and no. Divi 5.0 is not going to be just a normal “big” update. It’s going to be almost like a different product. But yes, it will be called version 5.0 technically, but in some ways it will be like 1.0 of a new Divi experience.

New Divi Backend Foundation – 5.0

Some of the most exciting changes from a developer perspective is the upcoming change to the core component of the Divi Visual Builder. Divi is soon releasing their own API to rebuild the Visual Builder interface from the ground up. The main motivation and goal for this is all of the above factors and issues, but mainly to ensure the Divi Builder foundation is prepared for the future. This huge change will ensure the highest level of performance and scalability of both the Visual Builder itself and the font end performance.

No More Shortcodes

This new foundation brings exciting API changes to the Divi Builder. Instead of the current/old method of using shortcodes to retrieve data stored in the database and output that to the builder/frontend, the new method will utilize the same storage format as Gutenberg and store the data in HTML on the page. This will be a significant performance improvement!

Compatibility with WordPress

WordPress is changing — a lot. No one knows for sure what will keep changing as far as integration with themes and plugins, but from Divi’s perspective, things are looking up! Keep in mind Divi has always paid attention to this, and released some basic integration and compatibility with Gutenberg in the past, but only what was needed to get by –but always with a plan!

Elegant Themes is looking ahead and embracing the latest WordPress APIs in their foundational rebuild, including those having to do with the block editor and block based themes. Basically, this means there is a potential for maximum Gutenberg/Divi Builder compatibility. Please note they are not making any promises yet, but as they continue to progress and understand the WordPress roadmap it is looking very exciting! (more on Divi vs. Gutenberg later)

Extendable Module API For 3rd Parties (me!)

Elegant Themes is committed to improving their 3rd party API to ensure developers like myself have the most flexibility and opportunities to continue to build modules and extend the Divi Builder. Unfortunately, this is going to mean a lot of work for us, and you should expect a transition period for developers to catch up and literally rebuild all their modules. Yes, you heard me. Rebuild! It’s going to be a huge task. Look at some plugins out there that have 30+ modules in one. Yikes. I personally am already planning around this, only doing updates that will not be impacted by this until we rebuild. Thankfully, Elegant Themes is providing an extensive library of developer focussed resources to help make this possible for us. The good part is that the new modules will be easier to build than the traditional way, so after the transition is over, look out!

Expect A Smooth Transition

Don’t worry too much, though. Divi is going to change the entire foundation without affecting the house. It’s crazy, and a tremendously huge task. But the upgrade experience will be surprisingly smooth, flawless for all customers, whether they just use Divi or 3rd party Divi plugins too.

Backwards Compatibility

Even if you use 3rd party modules, don’t worry. There is going to be a way to keep backwards compatibility, at least for a while. The experience may not be optimal, and there are no promises that it will remain backwards compatible forever, so it is highly recommended that developers embrace the new API and upgrade their modules. But please, lets all be gracious! To us, and to Elegant Themes.

No Visual Changes – Yet, Until 6.0

From the customer perspective, there will not be any dramatic visual changes to the Visual Builder UI for this foundation rebuild. All the changes are below the surface, and it will not affect the look of Divi. Although there are changes coming to the UI with 5.0.

UPDATE: They changed their mind about this. Originally, the foundation change was going to be Divi 4.x, and the visual change 5.0. But now they are planning the foundation update to be Divi 5.0, and the visual change is 6.0 probably a year or more after 5.0 is released.Β 

Global Styling Framework

We have seen Divi gradually add design features related to global styling. First we got things like Copy & Paste styles, which was a basic first step. Then we got Find & Replace, which was a cool next step. After that, we got Presets, which is quite a big step. Then we got Global Colors, another important step forward.Β 

Here is the problem with all of that. None of it is global! You can’t set your font sizes in a Text module and expect them to be set in the Blurb module. It’s a little sad. But soon you will be able to adjust your global site styles, colors, and more from a central global styling modal directly in the builder!

Eliminate The Need For Any CSS

The Elegant Themes team believes there is no need to have a child theme just for styling alone. Sure, maybe for other functionality, but not for the sole purpose of adding CSS. Because of this belief, expect even more CSS related settings in the Divi Builder that cover absolutely every element.

Everything In The Builder

In the past, themes and builders like Divi always relied on separate settings pages. In Divi, we have both the Theme Options area and the Customizer. This is a hassle, because it means we are always switching back and form from the Divi Builder to the backend settings. These are also both very dated, and I expect them both to be dissolved and relocated.

No More Customizer (Thank God)

I’ve known for a few years that the vision Nick Roach had for Divi was to keep everything within the builder, like a distraction free working area. For years now, people have begged for more settings in the Customizer, but thankfully Divi did not provide those. Then we got the Theme Builder and Presets, and it is becoming obvious that the future is in the builder itself, not those clunky old Theme Options and Customizers. I personally have not used the Customizer for years. Even WordPress is moving away from it. I already have a post/video about the Customizer and why it is going away (thank goodness!): Where Are The Missing Divi Customizer Settings?

Custom Code Editor Inside Builder

With that being said, keep in mind Divi is meant for both beginner and advanced users, coders and non-coders. So there will always be ways to extend Divi with custom code such as jQuery and CSS. Currently, we have Custom CSS in Theme Options general tab, and the ability to add JavaScript in the Integration tab. I fully expect these code areas to move from Them Options into the Divi Builder itself, easy to access and maybe even code editor features. I don’t know this detail for sure, but that’s my assumption based on everything else I know.

Answering The Cry For More Responsive Breakpoints

This is not a topic that Divi or WordPress or any other builder can ever truly solve. Some people mistakenly believe that more breakpoints would solve their issues, but not necessarily. So you want 10,000 breakpoints? Of course not. My point is that the echoing cry for more breakpoints is a bit uneducated. Sometimes we expect a magical canvas, but depending on which value the user inputs or even the unit like px, em, percentage, or vh, it’s going to make a big difference. Finding an answer to this is next to impossible, but challenges are fun, and Divi is planning some clever ways to improve responsive design. Yes, it will involve more breakpoints, but it will go far beyond just adding breakpoints. They are thoroughly thinking through everything, so expect greatness!

Flex Is Old – Expect Grid CSS

The current situation with the Divi column structure is not so good. It uses CSS flex a little, but mostly not. And let’s be honest, CSS flex is old. Grid is the current best solution, and this is what Divi is planning to use for their new column framework.

Most of you already know that, and many of you have purchased my Divi Responsive Helper plugin to solve a lot of that. But our plugin is a band-aid hack, not a core change. So the column stacking portion of our plugin will most likely become obsolete someday. But it will before the betterment of Divi and all users, so although my solution will be less valuable, it is for the best.

Reorganized Modal Settings

The challenge is fitting all the settings into Divi. The current UI is already crowded. So the challenge becomes how to give users the settings they need when they need it, but not all the settings all the time when they don’t need it. Wow! Think about that for a second. I predict that version 5.0 will be the point at which we see changes to how the current modals, pages settings, layouts, and all the builder interface works. But don’t worry, they’re smart enough not to change everything and let us wonder aimlessly. But the fact remains — they need to fit more and more things into an interface, that requires some degree of changes. The beautiful thing will be seeing how they make this work, only showing what each user needs at just the right time and place!

Improved Standardized Terminology

It can be awkward to try to talk about the Divi Builder. What is that called? We end up saying things like widget, module, row, section, panel, modal, window, toggle, tab, box, contextual menu, dropdown, etc. But nobody really knows what to call stuff. While this may not seem like a big issue, it does become important in training when writing documentation or creating courses. Sometimes I just make stuff up, and the trick is to say it confidently like you really know what you mean πŸ˜‰ But thankfully Elegant Themes will be addressing this along with the above-mentioned changes.

Extra, Extra!

The lost red-headed stepchild of Divi is the theme Extra. Keep in mind the origin story. Divi was going to be this new builder that could do everything, and then they planned to just build more themes with Divi. Makes sense, right? But Divi took off. It quickly became obvious that Divi was the main product, so the theme became synonymous with the builder. Something is planned to happen with Extra in the future, but my detective skills have not been able to uncover the details on that yet.

Divi Cloud – The Central Hub For Everything

I have suspected for a long time that Divi was inching closer to having a centralized hub for storing layouts, presets, colors, theme builder templates, and other settings. We have seen competitors doing this left and right, and it just makes sense. This has been confirmed by a Facebook post by owner Nick Roach, and in the comment section he confirmed this is the plan. I’ve seen customers begging for things such as the ability to add sections instead of layouts for a long time. But again, remember the why – they could not keep adding features like that to the existing system. They were thinking far beyond just layout management. The teased new Divi Cloud sounds like a new kind of platform altogether, which will undoubtedly come in phases and deliver more than we’ve asked.


Divi Teams – Collaboration Within Your Account And Divi

Elegant Themes surprised most people with the announcement of Divi Teams. This is like an addon for Divi that integrates with Divi and Divi cloud, and is used for managing your team and clients.

I happen to know that Divi will be working on a lot more Divi Teams features. Divi cloud and Divi Teams will clearly be the “updates” that happen during the transition to 5.0.

Elegant Themes Divi Teams

Hey elephant! Yes, Divi And Gutenberg Can Coexist

I use Divi exclusively in my website design and product business, so I personally was getting a little concerned when I saw some better updates to Gutenberg come out, like back around WordPress 5.5. And they have gotten more and more serous about it since. So I asked a few well respected friends who are in similar shoes, even developers that work for Elegant Themes, what their thoughts were about the future of Divi. The response was essentially this: “Why can’t we have both?”

Continue Using The Tools You Love

Users will continue to use the tools they feel most comfortable with, whether that be Divi, Gutenberg, Beaver Builder, Elementor, Astra, or any other WordPress theme or builder. But don’t write Divi off. Even if you already have, you are going to find yourself coming back to Divi. That’s right, you read this post, didn’t you? You’re curious, and that is because you love Divi. You’re going to be watching, and I predict you will also be using Divi far into the future. The competition is watching too — and some of them are going to be saying “oh crap” soon. Just wait for it.

A Trustworthy Team And Leadership

If you follow Elegant Themes at all, you know that the owner and founder Nick Roach is very business savvy, smart, and forward-thinking (he can also be just like me – sarcastic. lol). He also has some of the smartest, most capable team leaders in the industry around him. It’s a group effort by everyone from sales to support to design and development, but having leaders with those qualities should give you some peace about the future of Divi as we enter a world of a more mature Gutenberg blog editor and intense competition. I personally am not worried, not even 2%. Was I before? Yes, before I became aware of the Divi plans, I was about 37% worried. Not anymore, I’m just giddy with excitement now!

Timeframe? Patience, Please!

The big question is timeframe — when will we see all of this become a reality? I personally have learned a lot of lessons from my own product business. There are reasons why we don’t always tell you exactly what is coming. If there is a pause, or quietness, it always means something big is brewing. I hate waiting. I am also in the middle of several huge development cycles building big products, 10x bigger than I have before. I can’t wait myself, but good things take time.

Prepare Now

My advice is to do everything you can to wait, because it’s going to be well worth it. You need to trust me on that! Meanwhile, take this time to prepare for it. Think ahead and get the rest of your business in order, so that when Divi does start releasing big changes, you can spend a little extra time on learning everything that is new.

Encouragement Goes A Long Way

Let’s all encourage the team. There will undoubtedly be hiccups along the way. Delays. Frustrating bugs. But there’s nothing better you can do to help than encourage the team. Let’s be better at that. I know personally we are in for some extra work, extra expense, extra time rebuilding our plugins. So bear with us. Once we all get past some stages, it’s going be well worth it.

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  1. Christian <span class="comment-author-role-label"><a href="https://www.peeayecreative.com/product/divi-adventure-club/" class="comment-author-role-link" rel="external nofollow" target="_blank">Divi Adventure Club Member</a></span>

    Very nice and interesting article about the future of Divi. To be honest: I was already looking for alternatives and how to go to the Gutenberg, because in my eyes Divi needs to long for updates (e.g. the responsive design is much easier and smoother in Gutenberg or Elementor) but actually I really like Divi – thats why I still work with Divi, too. And keep me posted what happens in the future.

    I hope Divi will do some of this big steps faster than in the past!

    Thank you for this great and detailed summary about Divi, Nelson!

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      I am glad you like it! I personally think the Divi user interface is much better than any competitor, which is one of the reasons I am happy they will be around for a long time!

  2. Anke Feil <span class="comment-author-role-label"><a href="https://www.peeayecreative.com/product/divi-adventure-club/" class="comment-author-role-link" rel="external nofollow" target="_blank">Divi Adventure Club Member</a></span>

    I read this article with a lot of interest. Thanks Nelson.

    It is important to understand the background of a platform like Divi β€” and you helped me with this. The Gutenberg part is the most important to me. Let me explain why:

    I decided to go with Divi 1.5 years ago when my favorite Theme company decided to drop their Page Builder and go with Gutenberg. I felt like that was a big step back (Gutenberg was a pain then) β€” but the problem for this company was probably similar to what you describe: They had to for technical reasons.

    All that I invested β€” money (not so much) and way more important: time β€” was lost. I didn’t feel comfortable with Gutenberg β€” and this was why I was looking for another Builder. I found Divi.

    ET is much (!) bigger than the other company I mentioned, support is great and I am happy with all the features that Divi offers.

    I would stay happy already if Divi stayed reliable β€” with some “helpers”. Tools like what you offer make it better.

    After having read your article I feel some relief because I see that there’s probably no need to change the boat again β€” well, at least I hope so.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts β€” they are very much appreciated!

    Cheers, Frank

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      You’re welcome, I’m glad this was interesting! I don’t see any value in switching around once you get comfortable with a tool, and I believe your experience with Divi will only get better in the years ahead.

  3. Martin <span class="comment-author-role-label"><a href="https://www.peeayecreative.com/product/divi-adventure-club/" class="comment-author-role-link" rel="external nofollow" target="_blank">Divi Adventure Club Member</a></span>

    I just read your article and it actually calmed me down a bit. In the near past I was also thinking about if Divi may be gone at one point. And also why Divi is missing so many features and not catching up as fast as the competition. The product updates have been very rare in the near past and I was close before switching to another builder, because I don’t want to bet on the wrong horse in the long term. Also Gutenberg is getting big and WordPress 6 is just ahead. So yeah reading your view from a bit more inside is a relief for me. Thanks for that.

    It would just be nice if there would be a slight knowledge about the timing, so I would shift some projects to that. I would prefer a rough timeframe to “Hey Divi 5 is out now”.

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      Thanks for sharing! Just to clarify though, Divi 5.0 is not the big foundation update, that is before that in 4.x and will come probably early 2023. 5.0 is a totally different thing and will be more like early 2024.


Comments By Others

  1. Stephen Vaughan

    Hi Nelson,

    I just found your article today. I kind of new from the early last year that there were moves to remove the shortcodes and create a new underpinnings akin to how the block editor works. The question for me, since then was, would they be able to achieve this? You have provided a lot more info (even if written 9 months ago) and it all looks very exiting. I like how they are spinning this out over the long term and not rushing so that the transition will be smooth. The last piece of the puzzle relates to the sites I’ve built over the last number of years being converted away from shortcodes to the new html based structure of Divi 5?

    On a side note. The new block editor is brilliant, up to a point. I use it for news post content and it is a joy to use there, wrapped in Divi templates. The big fall down with the block editor is that it doesn’t address responsive design at all, with none of the breakpoint functionality that you get with page builders. Yes third parties address it but with nothing consistent between them. It seems the Gutenberg team skipped responsiveness and moved onto other pet projects such as FSE. The other flaw in the block editor was not enforcing a set number of block elements that could be then overridden by third parties (page builders and plugins). Turn off or change to another vendor’s product and at least your content and layout would to some degree remain intact. As it is, if a block plugin breaks or gets deactivated, you may loose a lot of this. Here I think the GB team have not been operating with the same level of foresight as ET.

  2. Gabriel

    Nice article Nelson, a question, when Divi 5.0 comes out (in this case 1.0) who had already purchased divi lifetime will continue with the license or will they have to buy a new one?

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      I don’t think this is any concern. They won’t charge lifetime customers again, I think that would be illegal or something πŸ™‚ But to honest, if they would, I would be fine with it.

  3. Mohamed

    Hi Nelson,

    I am a Divi LTD customer, it seems for me that ElegantTheme is working on a big project on the cloud, I think it is like a (cloud divi builder and hosting) in a SAAS platform based on Laravel PHP Framework.

    look at this post on ET. blog: https://www.elegantthemes.com/blog/wordpress/wordpress-vs-laravel-php-framework

    also, in careers page on ET website, they looking for a Full-Stack WordPress/Laravel Developer.

    if this is true (cloud divi builder and hosting), it will be awesome for me, having one solution for building and hosting clients websites in a SAAS Divi platform, like (brizy cloud) (without the hassle of wordpress hosting)

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      Hi Mohamed,
      I don’t know about hosting, as they are currently working on and really pushing partnerships with other hosting companies. Nice observation about Laravel, but I assume that would most likely be used for a centralized place to view and manage your Divi Cloud, hence the SaaS nature. The Divi Cloud is going to be a big deal. What is released so far is only the tip of the iceberg.

  4. Rina

    Thank you for this informative post, I’ve read the part where you say it’s possible to use Divi together with Gutenberg but I was wondering, is it advisable? Or will it make my website too slow? do I risk plugin conflicts and such? Cause at the moment I’m moving my website to Divi but I’m thinking of not using Divi to build my blog posts to avoid content lock-in (my posts are full of pictures and I’m facing the problem already of reinserting a lot of pictures cause I was using Bakery builder and I’m left with a lot of incompatible code… ouch… ). So I was wondering if in the near future I could install and use Gutenberg just for customizing posts? What is your opinion? Thanks!

  5. John Fejsa

    It sounds like exciting times are coming soon for Divi users, and I am looking forward to them. It was interesting to read the article outlining some improvements we might be able to look forward to. Thank you, Nelson.

    • Hemant Gaba

      Hey John,

      We are glad that you liked our blog post. Stay tuned for more.

  6. Mhb

    Divi 5 in 2024 ?! Well if that’s the case then i’m sure people will leave the divi building.

    I’m looking into Gutenberg a lot right now it’s where all the buzz is right now. The problem though is a lot of bugs.

    If Divi in the near future looses more on features, speed. etc. etc then i’m sure people will leave.

    Right now Divi’s speed and code output has such a bad reputation that many don’t even tell they are using Divi.

    ET need to speed things up cause 2 years with minor updates like masks we just got will not get people to stay.

    So i’m 75% concerned about Divi.

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      Why do you care so much about a version number? Forget 5.0, that’s interface. Not sure why people get so hung up on misleading versioning. Also facts, I care about facts. Speed in Divi is very good, not sure what you are talking about. And it will get even better soon with the foundation update, it will probably be the fastest in the industry.

      • Dennis Gram

        I’m so excited about that update as I’m a speed freak” it will probably be the fastest in the industry” I will be back here after release Nelson πŸ˜€

  7. Chuck


    Great job putting this together. It sounds like Divi has a bright future. I grabbed the lifetime deal with Elegant Themes way back before Divi. I’ve witnessed the birth of Divi and have been using it almost exclusively since. I built a couple of sites with Astra/Elementor and that I found myself “reaching” for Divi tools.

    As each Divi update rolls out I’m always hesitant to apply until the Divi community has vetted the new version. ET doesn’t always get it right but 5.0 sounds like a blast. Usually Divi updates have some new features I didn’t know I needed until they became available.

    Thanks for the in-depth look at the Future of Divi!

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      I’m glad you like it! Yes pre-5 actually sounds like a blast, remember not to get too hung up on 5 as that is the interface change, the foundation change is before that. But yes, many features will start pouring in like crazy once the foundation update is completed!

  8. Kev Partner

    Very interesting, thank you, Nelson. I’ve used Divi for dozens of client sites, but I’ve been experimenting with the “dark side” (the WordPress Block Editor) and have been surprised at just how capable it is and how fast the resulting sites are.

    The next iteration of Divi is going to have to fix the problems you mention (but, most especially speed and how easy it is for clients to use for basic updates) or I’ll only be using it for the most complex sites.

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      Divi is already plenty fast and the foundation changes will probably make it the fastest in the industry. It’s the same as it always has been, you can choose the WordPress editor, or another one. Market share will be the only batter, not existence.

  9. Terri Zwierzynski

    Thank you for all this insight! Really helpful to understand the why’s and wherefore’s. I especially like the idea of ACTUAL global settings – been waiting for that forever!!

  10. James Daly

    Hi Nelson,
    Thank you for the reassurance.
    It was easy to question sticking with DIVI listening to all the hype about Gutenberg and some other page builders. The No.1 concern for me is not extra features but the focus on page speed.
    And that is something that is hard to quantify unless I have two identical sites built with different builders, and that’s not likely to happen!
    Thank you for taking the time to put this article together and giving us hope that sticking with DIVI is the way to go.
    All the best,

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      I’m glad you could be reassured! Page speed has been majorly addressed already in 4.10, but it will get even better. I’m glad you appreciate the work put into this and will be sticking around!

  11. NickW

    Nice article, I’m really looking forward to the future of Divi and this outlines it nicely! And you are correct, they deserve more praise, the elegant themes team do a really good job, but people love to moan more than praise….always.

  12. Brian Duffey

    I’m a couple weeks late to this post, but, as always, Thank You, Nelson, for all the great Divi information and insights! This has my Spidey-Sense tingling!! I’ve been very happy with my decision to switch to Divi, 2 years ago. And I’m very excited to see what changes they have in store, for the future of this fantastic app!

  13. Ramon Buzon

    A very convenient and very well written post. Thank you Nelson. πŸ’œ Long live Divi!

  14. Terry Hale

    Thanks for the great writeup, Nelson. I know it took a lot of time a resources to compile it all into a succinct and helpful article!

  15. Eliezer Halpern

    Not sure why you were so hard on Divi in its current form. Most of the criticism is from people who don’t use it in real life.
    It is the best value for money builder on the market at the moment.
    It is solid and reliable with some shiny tricks too.
    Beyond the hype the (WordPress) competition builders all have loads of bad points too.
    Can’t wait for the new features and I hope and pray the owner of Divi finally gets a good haircut one day!

    • Nelson Lee Miller (aka The Divi Teacher) <span class="comment-author-role-label author-label">Author</span>

      It’s interesting to hear that you think I was hard on Divi. They admit that there are tons of missing features, they just knew they had to wait. Yes the value is crazy, and not sustainable if you ask me, and I think that will change soon. Haha, that’s funny about the hair. Definitely not something I’d want to deal with personally πŸ™‚

  16. Cecil

    Very interesting piece. Thanks very much for the heads up.

  17. Dima

    I read it with interest. Thanks Nelson.


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